Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
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- adalberto19
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
Al Gore has been into the ninos for years.
- ebenezar
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
I hope el nino whips his @$$!
- davet
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
No, I won't. I don't agree with the whole global warming thing.
- kermichaef
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
it amazes me that, even after all the half-truths, exaggerations and outright whoppers that Al Bore has told throughout his career, anyone believes anything he has to say on any subject!
a few other random thoughts on the 'global warming' topic:
why is it that today we're being hysterically warned that the planet is burning up from EXACTLY the same causes that were, in the 70's, supposed to be causing the earth to turn into a great big block of ice?
why is Al Bore babbling that changes in solar activity have NOTHING to do with the planet's climate?
why is mars going thru 'global warming' without so much as a single SUV, incandescent light bulb, or styrofoam cup on the entire planet?
why are two decades of cooling insignificant, but ONE MONTH of higher ocean temperatures is trumpeted as PROOF POSITIVE? lots of cherry-picking going on with the 'global warming truthers'
why does GE keep making that ridiculous claim that their stupid CFL bulbs will last 8 years? i've not had one last as long as 8 MONTHS!
if Al Bore was serious about 'global warming', he's shut his fat yap and quit spewing so much hot air...yeah, like THAT'S gonna happen!
the 'smart money' is on El Nino
a few other random thoughts on the 'global warming' topic:
why is it that today we're being hysterically warned that the planet is burning up from EXACTLY the same causes that were, in the 70's, supposed to be causing the earth to turn into a great big block of ice?
why is Al Bore babbling that changes in solar activity have NOTHING to do with the planet's climate?
why is mars going thru 'global warming' without so much as a single SUV, incandescent light bulb, or styrofoam cup on the entire planet?
why are two decades of cooling insignificant, but ONE MONTH of higher ocean temperatures is trumpeted as PROOF POSITIVE? lots of cherry-picking going on with the 'global warming truthers'
why does GE keep making that ridiculous claim that their stupid CFL bulbs will last 8 years? i've not had one last as long as 8 MONTHS!
if Al Bore was serious about 'global warming', he's shut his fat yap and quit spewing so much hot air...yeah, like THAT'S gonna happen!
the 'smart money' is on El Nino
- archibald
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
Many scientists agree, however, that hotter times are ahead. A decade of level or slightly lower temperatures is only a temporary dip to be expected as a result of natural, short-term variations in the enormously complex climate system, they say.
"The preponderance of evidence is that global warming will resume," Nicholas Bond, a meteorologist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in Seattle, said in an e-mail.
"Natural variability can account for the slowing of the global mean temperature rise we have seen," said Jeff Knight, a climate expert at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Exeter, England.
According to data from the National Space Science and Technology Center in Huntsville, Ala., the global high temperature in 1998 was 0.76 degrees Celsius (1.37 degrees Fahrenheit) above the average for the previous 20 years.
So far this year, the high has been 0.42 degrees Celsius (0.76 degrees Fahrenheit), above the 20-year average, clearly cooler than before.
However, scientists say the skeptics' argument is misleading.
"It's entirely possible to have a period as long as a decade or two of cooling superimposed on the long-term warming trend," said David Easterling, chief of scientific services at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
"These short term fluctuations are statistically insignificant (and) entirely due to natural internal variability," Easterling said in an essay published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters in April. "It's easy to 'cherry pick' a period to reinforce a point of view."
Climate experts say the 1998 record was partly caused by El Nino, a periodic warming of tropical Pacific Ocean waters that affects the climate worldwide.
"The temperature peak in 1998 to a large extent can be attributed to the very strong El Nino event of 1997-98," Bond said. "Temperatures for the globe as a whole tend to be higher during El Nino, and particularly events as intense as that one."
El Nino is returning this summer after a four-year absence and is expected to hang around until late next year.
"If El Nino continues to strengthen as projected, expect more (high temperature) records to fall," said Thomas Karl, who's the director of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville.
"At least half of the years after 2009 will be warmer than 1998, the warmest year currently on record," predicted Jeff Knight, a climate variability expert at the Hadley Centre in England.
John Christy, the director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, who often sides with the skeptics, agreed that the recent cooling won't last.
"The atmosphere is just now feeling the bump in tropical Pacific temperatures related to El Nino," Christy said in an e-mail. As a result, July experienced "the largest one-month jump in our 31-year record of global satellite temperatures. We should see a warmer 2009-2010 due to El Nino."
levon, did you read the whole article. looks like you missed a lot. some repubs don't trust scientists.
Scientists agree that humans cause global warming
Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe “global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.
Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that that human activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are unsure.
"The preponderance of evidence is that global warming will resume," Nicholas Bond, a meteorologist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in Seattle, said in an e-mail.
"Natural variability can account for the slowing of the global mean temperature rise we have seen," said Jeff Knight, a climate expert at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Exeter, England.
According to data from the National Space Science and Technology Center in Huntsville, Ala., the global high temperature in 1998 was 0.76 degrees Celsius (1.37 degrees Fahrenheit) above the average for the previous 20 years.
So far this year, the high has been 0.42 degrees Celsius (0.76 degrees Fahrenheit), above the 20-year average, clearly cooler than before.
However, scientists say the skeptics' argument is misleading.
"It's entirely possible to have a period as long as a decade or two of cooling superimposed on the long-term warming trend," said David Easterling, chief of scientific services at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
"These short term fluctuations are statistically insignificant (and) entirely due to natural internal variability," Easterling said in an essay published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters in April. "It's easy to 'cherry pick' a period to reinforce a point of view."
Climate experts say the 1998 record was partly caused by El Nino, a periodic warming of tropical Pacific Ocean waters that affects the climate worldwide.
"The temperature peak in 1998 to a large extent can be attributed to the very strong El Nino event of 1997-98," Bond said. "Temperatures for the globe as a whole tend to be higher during El Nino, and particularly events as intense as that one."
El Nino is returning this summer after a four-year absence and is expected to hang around until late next year.
"If El Nino continues to strengthen as projected, expect more (high temperature) records to fall," said Thomas Karl, who's the director of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville.
"At least half of the years after 2009 will be warmer than 1998, the warmest year currently on record," predicted Jeff Knight, a climate variability expert at the Hadley Centre in England.
John Christy, the director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, who often sides with the skeptics, agreed that the recent cooling won't last.
"The atmosphere is just now feeling the bump in tropical Pacific temperatures related to El Nino," Christy said in an e-mail. As a result, July experienced "the largest one-month jump in our 31-year record of global satellite temperatures. We should see a warmer 2009-2010 due to El Nino."
levon, did you read the whole article. looks like you missed a lot. some repubs don't trust scientists.
Scientists agree that humans cause global warming
Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe “global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.
Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that that human activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are unsure.
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
The opposite to El Nino is the La Nina which Australia is now again in this fraze period. So if El Nina's are important yes for the South American continent but not for Australia , as we suffer severe drought in almost all parts of our continent. This has broken away from the La Nina equatorial Pacific Ocean cooling on your side of the Pacific. That means Peru should be feeling the effects of their drought period while Australia gets their needed rains. Not only does it effect Australia it will effect Asia and as far as South Africa.
Back in the 1791 the El Nino nearly wiped out the first settlement of europeans in NSW (Sydney Harbor) from the effects of a server drought. So it is not the first time in Australia's history that we have suffered the consequences of the El Nino.
Scientist know that these occurrences are part of the Global weather pattens which have been going on since formation of the continents where they are of today. Once Australia was located down south hanging onto the Antartica Circle is another known fact.
El Nino was named by a Chilean fisherman working in the Pacific ocean catching sardines and noticed these changes to the water temperature which does effect Pilchards and White Bait. He called this cycle Christ Child.
Now the rains have come and flushed out the Northern Australian rivers and us old fisherman jump for joy as the Prawn catches will be huge once again. Money, money I might just go back to professional fishing once again and throw that stupid boomerang away and gets some real tucker man.
The Ice Age that effected Europe was when the Conveyor Belt sea temperature was halted by the melting of the Ice around the Article Circle. This controling factor runs from Greenland right down to Mexico. So Greenland became home to the Vikings when the ice age finished. Well what do you know it has started all over again Greenland has rich pastures and can grow most of their own food these days once again.
Back in the 1791 the El Nino nearly wiped out the first settlement of europeans in NSW (Sydney Harbor) from the effects of a server drought. So it is not the first time in Australia's history that we have suffered the consequences of the El Nino.
Scientist know that these occurrences are part of the Global weather pattens which have been going on since formation of the continents where they are of today. Once Australia was located down south hanging onto the Antartica Circle is another known fact.
El Nino was named by a Chilean fisherman working in the Pacific ocean catching sardines and noticed these changes to the water temperature which does effect Pilchards and White Bait. He called this cycle Christ Child.
Now the rains have come and flushed out the Northern Australian rivers and us old fisherman jump for joy as the Prawn catches will be huge once again. Money, money I might just go back to professional fishing once again and throw that stupid boomerang away and gets some real tucker man.
The Ice Age that effected Europe was when the Conveyor Belt sea temperature was halted by the melting of the Ice around the Article Circle. This controling factor runs from Greenland right down to Mexico. So Greenland became home to the Vikings when the ice age finished. Well what do you know it has started all over again Greenland has rich pastures and can grow most of their own food these days once again.
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Will you watch the Grudge Match ~ Al Gore - vs - El Nino?
According to the article they're saying it's "cooling" because temperatures are cooler than they were in 1998.
This just proves cons can't perform elementary statistics. You don't extrapolate a linear line based on two jagged points of a curved line.
8 of the hottest 10 years on record occurred this decade. June and July were both the second hottest June/July's on record.
this looks like warming to me:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif
EDIT:
"WTH!!! LOL!"
Look how many times global warming has been declared "over" :
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/global-warming-is-over-once-every-decade-or-so/
This just proves cons can't perform elementary statistics. You don't extrapolate a linear line based on two jagged points of a curved line.
8 of the hottest 10 years on record occurred this decade. June and July were both the second hottest June/July's on record.
this looks like warming to me:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif
EDIT:
"WTH!!! LOL!"
Look how many times global warming has been declared "over" :
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/global-warming-is-over-once-every-decade-or-so/
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